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Nixon Admitted 1960 Debate Prep Was ‘Totally Wrong’

CBS via Getty Images(NEW YORK) -- He was exhausted, sweaty and pale. His shirt was one size too big and five shades too light. And after a full day of campaigning, he was tired and anxious, all things a candidate does not want to be during his first televised presidential debate.

It was this sickly demeanor that made Republican Vice President Richard Nixon’s first televised presidential debate appearance go down in history as one of the worst. And in tapes released exclusively to ABC News Wednesday, Nixon was poignantly aware of how poor his performance was in that 1960 presidential debate against Massachusetts Sen. John F. Kennedy.

In a conversation between Nixon and his White House Chief of Staff Bob Haldeman recorded in 1971 during Nixon’s first term as president, Nixon recounts how unprepared he was for that debate, which 77 million Americans tuned in to see.

“Remember, even on the first debate. We made the mistake of not [preparing] for that one. Well, or -- we got prepared. Worked like hell,” Nixon says in a tape unearthed Wednesday by Nixon scholar Ken Hughes. “[We were] running the goddamn schedule so hard, we didn’t learn from the other -- we’re never going to make that mistake again.”

The conversation started with the two men discussing the day-long preparation that first lady Pat Nixon went through for a television interview that day.

“You know, it’s funny. She would be perfectly willing to do a day’s work to get everything organized to put on a reception for 5,000 people at the White House and stand there and shake hands with them and think that was a very worthwhile thing to do,” Haldeman says. “But to do the same day’s work for a television thing, you kind of tend to feel it’s useless, because [unclear] interviewer. You forget the fact that all those millions of people see it.”

“You know something?” Nixon responds. “By God, I did not understand this enough in ’60. You know, I hated to do television shows.”

“I was totally wrong,” the president concludes.

Nixon, who lost to Kennedy by a fraction of a percentage in the 1960 election, refused to debate during his second campaign for the White House in 1968. And in 1972 when his Democratic rival George McGovern, a senator from South Dakota, challenged him to a debate, the incumbent president refused.

In another previously-unreleased taped conversation, Nixon and Haldeman came up with two excuses for why the president would not take McGovern up on his debate challenge.

“The differences between these two candidates are so great and so clear that no debate is needed to bring out those differences,” Nixon says, dictating what the White House response should be in a taped conversation at Camp David on July 22, 1972.

“Particularly with the international situation and the very sensitive matters that are being discussed, that debate would not serve the national interest,” Nixon added.

The main topic of the 1972 election was the Vietnam War. McGovern was fiercely anti-war and pledged to immediately pull all U.S. forces out of Vietnam.

Hughes, the presidential researcher at the University of Virginia’s Miller Center, said Nixon’s predecessor Lyndon B. Johnson also used the national security excuse. The argument was that because of the information he as president had access to about the Vietnam War, participating in a televised debate could threaten national security because he might accidently say something confidential.

In the newly released tape, Haldeman encourages Nixon to use that excuse to get out of debating McGovern.

“Somebody ought to go out and say that for God’s sake with McGovern’s total irresponsibility and his running around talking to North Vietnamese that the president would be out of his mind and would be jeopardizing national security to debate,” Haldeman says.

Ultimately, Nixon and McGovern did not appear together on a debate stage. Hughes said there was almost no controversy over Nixon’s decision to sit it out.

“The expectation was that if an incumbent president did not have to debate he wouldn’t,” Hughes said.

And because Nixon was dominating McGovern in the polls, “no one really pressured Nixon to take part in this.”

Nixon went on to beat McGovern in one of the biggest landslide elections in history, winning 61 percent of the popular vote and 97 percent of the electoral college. McGovern only won one state: Massachusetts.

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New JFK Assassination Tapes Revealed

Library Of Congress/Getty Images(PHILADELPHIA) –- Nearly 48 years after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, fresh audio evidence from that fateful day has surfaced.  The evidence comes in the form of the original reel-to-reel Air Force One radio recording containing conversations between officials on the plane, the White House situation room, and others.  The original tape was long thought to be lost or destroyed.

The tape contains never-before-heard conversations between the presidential aircraft and the White House, and immediately after the assassination of President Kennedy on Nov. 22, 1963.

It was held privately for years by President Kennedy’s military aide at the time, Chester Clifton. The tape was obtained by the Raab Collection of Philadelphia.

According to Nathan Raab, the vice president of the collection, the tape is the raw, unedited version of the edited audio tape from Air Force One that is in the National Archive.  The Raab Collection says the raw tape “is about 30 minutes longer than the edited version, predates it by years, and contains incidents and code names never before heard by the American public.”

“That this tape even exists will change the way we view this great event in history,” said Raab. “It took decades to analyze the shorter, newer version and it will take years to do the same here. This provides a concise ‘tale of the tapes’ and offers great insight into ongoing research.”

The tape contains a dramatic first-hand report of the president’s assassination, and the wounding of then-Texas Gov. John Connolly.  The recordings may fill in some important blanks for the assassination historians and conspiracy theorists – for example, the tapes locate Gen. Curtis LeMay at the time of the assassination.  LeMay, a member of the Joints Chiefs of Staff, was a vocal critic of JFK and there has been speculation over the years that he may have had a role in the assassination.  The tapes also placed various other officials, allowing the public to learn where they were, at what time, and what they were saying.

Much of the recording involves logistical planning – whether to take the president’s body for autopsy to Walter Reed or Bethesda Naval Hospital; plans for where Mrs. Kennedy should be taken; and how many limousines should meet the plane when it touched down.

Raab said the collection is offering the original, reel-to-reel tape for sale at $500,000.  A digital file will be provided at no cost to the National Archives and John F. Kennedy Library.

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