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Michele Bachmann 'Submissive' Wife Idea a Matter of Interpretation

Steve Pope/Getty Images(AMES, Iowa) -- The debate-night audience lashed out at the reporter who dared to ask Rep. Michele Bachmann whether she would be submissive to her husband as president, but the chorus of "boos" Thursday in Ames, Iowa, overlooked a much more nuanced and complex partnership that's grounded in Scripture, evangelical Christian scholars say.

The concept of a submissive wife needs to be "seen in the context that there is a good many more things a husband is required to do than the wife is required to do," Richard Land, head of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, said.

The husband "is to love his wife the way Christ loved the church and gave himself for it," Land continued. "He's going to be seeking what's best for his wife and the wife, in turn, is to put herself under the authority of her own husband as unto the Lord."

The relationship is only between two married people and not between a woman and other men, including men with whom she might work, he said. "The husband is to be the head of the home and he is to give himself to sacrificial service to his wife," Land said. "And the wife is to put herself under the authority of her own husband as unto the Lord and that means she is going to trust his authority and he's going to put herself under his headship in the marriage."

One of the most talked about moments at Thursday night's GOP debate on the Fox News Channel came when Bachmann of Minnesota was asked a question that raised some eyebrows. The question stemmed from a speech she gave in 2006 when she was running for Congress.

Bachmann told a church in Brooklyn Park, Minn., that she hated taxes, but went on to study tax law in order to be "submissive" to her husband.

Her response Thursday night to the Washington Examiner's Byron York was broader but no less faithful. Bachmann said she loved her husband and was "so proud of him."

"What submission means to us, if that's what your question is, it means respect. I respect my husband. He's a wonderful, Godly man and a great father, and he respects me as his wife," she told York and the millions watching. "That's how we operate our marriage. We respect each other, we love each other, and I've been so grateful that we've been able to build a home together."

The teaching is rooted in the fifth chapter of Ephesians in the New Testament: "Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything."

The verse goes on to say," Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church."

It's open to different interpretations, but Land said he believes Bachmann would run the country as other women in authority have, using the example of Queen Elizabeth, who acts as the head of state in the United Kingdom, but reportedly lets her husband make family decisions.

And just as John F. Kennedy said he would not take direction from the Vatican in the White House, Bachmann would not run the nation under husband Marcus' authority, he said.

As for the potential political fallout, David Brody, chief political correspondent for the Christian Broadcasting Network, said the controversy will help Bachmann.

"My guess is there will be more evangelical support for Michele Bachmann in Iowa because she will be looked upon as somewhat of a victim," Brody said. "I think this will actually be a boon for her. Not just in support in the polls, but probably an uptick in donations as well. It just feels like there is a lot of victimization here that the Bachmann campaign may actually get an uptick in money and polling."

Brody also said he thought the question was "out of bounds" and more "anti-evangelical Christian" than sexist. He questioned why no one asked former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman about his Mormon faith during the same debate.

"The mainstream media and others are trying to wrap their arms around the concept they don't understand," Brody said. "Even though tens of millions not just evangelicals, but Christians around the country understand they are being put on the spot to explain."

Although Brody thought the question was unfair, Bachmann's spokeswoman Alice Stewart said she saw it "as an opportunity for her to clear up any concerns people may have had about that word. Clearly, people view that word differently. But for Michele and her husband that's the way they describe their relationship in terms of having a mutual respect for each other; and they do, they have a fantastic marriage, a very loving couple, and when they're using that term it's their expression of how they have a mutual respect and love for each other."

And Bachmann's Iowa campaign chairman Kent Sorenson agreed, also saying it was a "great opportunity."

Bachmann's husband didn't shy away from commenting Friday at the Iowa State fair. "I think the fact that she is talking about two people who respect, honor, and communicate to each other about decisions just makes a lot of sense," Marcus Bachmann told ABC News. "I think the American people can see that that makes for a good marriage."

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Michele Bachmann Deflects Questions About Husband’s Clinic

ABC News(WASHINGTON) -- Presidential candidate Michele Bachmann declined to directly address reports that the Christian counseling clinic she owns with her husband, Marcus, has tried to help gay people become straight through prayer.

“I’m extremely proud of my husband.  I have tremendous respect and admiration for him,” she told an audience in Washington, D.C. Thursday.  “I am running for the presidency of the United States.  My husband is not running for the presidency, neither are my children, neither is our business, neither is our foster children.  And I am more than happy to stand for questions on running for presidency of the United States."

Bachmann’s remarks came during a question-and-answer session after a speech at the National Press Club.  Bachmann’s husband and two of the couple’s children, Sophie and Elisa, were in the audience.

Though she declined to respond to the question about her husband's counseling centers, Bachmann acknowledged that running for president often brings intense, and sometimes unwanted, scrutiny.

“I have no doubt that every jot and tittle of my life will be fully looked at and inspected,” she said.

Bachmann’s appearance in Washington Thursday was wedged in between visits to Iowa, where she has been campaigning in advance of the Ames Straw Poll next month.  She campaigned there earlier in the week and will return for more events over the weekend.

The Minnesota Republican offered more candid responses about other personal issues, including her faith, telling the audience that if elected she “will pray every day.”

“I will be praying for every one of you too,” she said.

And as the clock ticks down toward the Aug. 2 deadline for default on the national debt, Bachmann said there was no changing her mind about voting “no” on House Speaker John Boehner’s debt-limit plan, which was originally expected to come up for a vote on Thursday before it was scuttled for the day.

“We have to stop making raising the debt limit routine,” she told the audience.  “The American people have made it abundantly clear they don’t want us to raise the debt limit, whether it’s a short-term raise or a long-term raise.”

She added, “I couldn’t go down that road, and so I couldn’t give John Boehner that vote."

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Marcus Bachmann Says Clinics Are Not Anti-Gay

Steve Pope/Getty Images(WASHINGTON) -- Dr. Marcus Bachmann, PhD, husband of GOP presidential hopeful Michele Bachmann, defended his Christian counseling clinic and denied that his business offered to convert gay men to become straight.

The Bachmanns own two clinics in Minnesota, and have recently come under fire after hidden camera footage shot by activists and aired on ABC News showed a therapist telling a gay man how he could become attracted to women.

In an interview with the Star Tribune, Bachmann said his clinics do not offer "reparative" therapy, a practice the American Psychological Association has deemed ineffective and unsafe, but said they would provide similar services if a patient asked for them.

"Will I address it?  Certainly we'll talk about it," Bachmann told the paper.  "Is it a remedy form that I typically would use?...It is at the client's discretion."

"We don't have an agenda or a philosophy of trying to change someone,'' Bachmann said.

Bachmann also denied to the paper that he had called homosexuals "barbarians" in a 2010 radio interview that has been widely quoted.

"We have to understand: Barbarians need to be educated,'' Bachmann is heard saying in a recording of the interview.  "They need to be disciplined.  Just because someone feels it or thinks it doesn't mean that we are supposed to go down that road.''

Bachmann said the recording had been doctored.

Bachmann has also come under scrutiny for using federal and state funds at the clinic he and his wife own, given Rep. Michele Bachmann’s disdain for federal handouts.

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Michele Bachmann Clinic: Where You Can Pray Away the Gay?

Republican presidential candidate U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) and her husband Marcus Bachmann wave as they march in a Fourth of July parade in Clear Lake, Iowa. Steve Pope/Getty Images(MINNEAPOLIS) -- A former patient who sought help from the Christian counseling clinic owned by GOP presidential hopeful Michele Bachmann and her husband, Marcus, told ABC News he was advised that prayer could rid him of his homosexual urges and he could eventually be "re-oriented."

"[One counselor's] path for my therapy would be to read the Bible, pray to God that I would no longer be gay," said Andrew Ramirez, who was 17 years old at the time he sought help from Bachmann & Associates in suburban Minneapolis in 2004. "And God would forgive me if I were straight."

In the past, Marcus Bachmann has disputed the clinic has treated gay patients this way. But Ramirez's account, which was first reported by The Nation, is similar to the counseling session that appears on new undercover video shot by a gay rights advocacy group last month. That footage shows another counselor at the Bachmann clinic telling a gay man posing as a patient that, with prayer and effort, he could eventually learn to be attracted to women and rid himself of his gay urges.

The disclosures have provided fresh insight into what Michele Bachmann has called her family business -- the primary source of income for her family as she left her law practice to move into politics. The counseling center has factored into Bachmann's campaign narrative as well -- evidence, she said, of her ability to understand what it takes to create jobs and run a small business.

"We're very proud of our business and all job creators in the U.S.," Michele Bachmann told a reporter when asked about the clinic Monday.

The Bachmann & Associates counseling centers appear to offer a wide range of services to people in emotional distress and are clearly billed on the clinic's website as a religious-based approach to mental health treatment. ABC News sought to interview Marcus Bachmann and his wife about the clinic and its practices, but a campaign spokeswoman declined to make them available. The campaign did not respond to written questions, instead sending a statement that says they cannot answer questions about specific treatments provided to patients.

"Those matters are protected by patient-client confidentiality," the statement says. "The Bachmann's are in no position ethically, legally, or morally to discuss specific courses of treatment concerning the clinic's patients."

Questions about how the counselors at Bachmann's clinic respond to patients who arrive seeking help with the tension between their sexual urges and their religious believes have long swirled in Minnesota. Marcus Bachmann was asked if his clinic tried to convert patients from gay to straight in an interview with a local newspaper in 2006, and said, "That's a false statement."

"If someone is interested in talking to us about their homosexuality, we are open to talking about that," he is reported to have said. "But if someone comes in a homosexual and they want to stay homosexual, I don't have a problem with that."

The controversial practice of trying to change someone's sexual orientation was roundly discredited by the American Psychological Association in 2009 as ineffective and potentially harmful. The first-hand accounts and video evidence surfacing Monday have rekindled questions about the Bachmann family business.

Clinton Anderson, who heads the association's Office on Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Concerns, told ABC News that his organization did an exhaustive review and found no evidence that efforts to convert someone from gay to straight could succeed.

"The harm is that when people are already in distress, and feeling conflict about their religion and their sexuality, to tell them they can change if they work hard enough, when in fact they can't do that … just makes their distress and their shame -- their depression -- even worse," Anderson said.

Marcus Bachmann describes a gentle approach to counseling on his website, saying he believes "my call is to minister to the needs of people in a practical, caring and sensitive way." In a talk radio interview, however, he does not deny a tougher approach when it comes to dealing with behavior considered to be sinful.

"We have to understand, barbarians need to be educated," he said during a 2010 appearance on the program Point of View.

Questions about the clinic's approach to counseling gay patients prompted the Vermont-based advocacy group Truth Wins Out to send a gay man undercover, with a camera, to seek guidance from a Bachmann associate.

"I told my therapist that I was struggling with attraction to the same sex, and that my attractions were overwhelmingly, predominately, exclusively homosexual," said John Becker, the man who visited the clinic five times in late June.

Treatment notes and bills that Becker provided to ABC said the counselor's goal was to "increase ability to manage and decrease feelings and actions."

Becker said he was told more explicitly that the goal of his treatment was to end his homosexual urges entirely, and he was provided scriptural mantras to repeat to himself in order to stay on track.

"He seemed to believe genuinely in his heart of hearts that, somehow, my homosexuality could be cured and could be eliminated," Becker said.

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